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Dan Burns-Findlay
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DAW Automation Comparison

The image here shows how badly Logic Pro 7 automation accuracy (red source, bounced in blue) sucks compared to Digital Performer (bounced, re-imported & aligned, green). Having said that, DP5 was shifting bounced files back 4/44100th of a second (talking a four sample offest). So take your pick. Crap automation or inaccurate bouncing? God I wish I could afford PT|HD.  Audio file used was pink noise, and the automation curves were drawn from instantaneous negative infinity to +6dB on both Logic and DP's internal mixer.

almost 16 years ago 0 likes  9 comments  0 shares
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I am all about Logic 7 ... L8 is actually less accurate than Logic 7 due to the interface being so clunky ... fucking Garage Band Pro :'/ I'm considering my cross-grade path this year. Will keep L7 as my default sequencing & writing program but I will probably move to PT for mixing.
almost 16 years ago
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well. if that can be of consolation... think about when editing was done cutting and pasting tapes, using dat or even before that... it was not too long ago, if you think about it... and to fix your 4/44100th of a second it will only take 30 seconds of your time, once you have isolated the problem... i am sticking with logic 7 too... but (shame) i have express... =(
almost 16 years ago
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Yeah thank god this isn't tape. And the Logic automation ramping is still faster than even the highest end consoles. But disappointed that what you draw is not what you hear. That's plain wrong. I always knew Logic was a but mushy on the automation front, tbut having 20 minutes to set this test up just proved it. Tom: Yeah, HD is the only program which handles audio with true sample accuracy precision. Editing, moving, automation etc. While all these programs sound & sum audio exactly the same (yup, I ran that test as well!) the increased accuracy of PT|HD may be worth the outlay against saved time. Knocking half a work-day's editing time off each song I do would amount to over 30 working length days per year. Trouble is I just don't HAVE $250k for the system I want!!! Dilemma :'/
almost 16 years ago
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saving half a day per song???? mate, how long do you spend editing every song??? you see that i was right about your album making me dizzy, thinking about the number of hours spent on it!! since we are talking statistics and parameters, i guess the right answer to the dilemma is: you need to evaluate how much money your time is worth, then calculate how much 30 days of your time are worth, multiply that by the number of years you believe PTHD will be the top quality standard (i'd say 3 at the most, considering tech speed) and see if this amount results to be higher or lower than the 250K... easy, no?? basically, if your time is worth more than 85K per month, then you better buy the damn thing!! let me know if you do... i might consider quitting my job and opening a bar... =) C.
almost 16 years ago
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I work pretty fast but I'm also extremely fussy. Takes me 2-3 days to mix something to the point where I'm happy with it. Ideally I'd separate day 2 and day 3 by a period of about a week. PT|HD will be the standard as long as clients keep requesting it. And as they are regurgitating only what they've been told then it'll be around for another decade. Plus I need to factor in that I would be using ProTools for my own music in which case I'm basing my purchase on emotional as well as financial factors.
almost 16 years ago
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well worded... i guess it is time to find sponsors! =) C.
almost 16 years ago

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