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  • Want to learn japanese

    Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 6:48PM / Standard Entry / Members only
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     shogunate

     

    sumo match, i learnt to appreciate when i was filming in nan jing, weird

    tokyo, panormic view

    I have always wanted to learn japanese since teenage. It is frustrating enough not able to understand nintendo games and popular anime, let alone travelling all the way to tokyo, osaka, hakone or okinawa, having seen all these amazing cultures and not knowing a thing about its background, or having eaten some anonymous amazing sushi before and find it impossible to make the same order again. Argh, i can still remember the pain. I have tried to pick up the language a couple times, the first time is a couple years ago, the tutor is japanese, in some local multilingual culture center; turns out the fee is beyond extravagant i just had to terminate after two sessions. The second time, believe it or not, is self-learning, only a few months ago; i was travelling to japan so often i decided to learn it myself, out of this little phrasebook from lonely planet. I know its kinda unconvincing, but it worked like a charm for me. I tried to learn katakana so i memorised them one by one during the flight, and started practising on japanese magazines, trying to make out the english equivalent. As we all know, katakana is like the representation of foreign recent borrowings ie. credit card, coffee, however it is often uneasy to tell. Take credit card for instance, in katakana its pronounced: ku-re-jit-to ka-do. Only with patience and lots of practise, i could make out half the katakana i came across during the trip, it helped a lot when i was buying stuff and ordering dinner. But there is another problem.

    Gramma- always bring infinite pain to discouraged learners, in japanese there is no exception. Here is something we often say: 'There are many good restaurants in tokyo', in japanese its 'to-kyo ni wa i res-to-ran ga ta-ku-san a ri-mas', translate it back to english, it roughly means 'tokyo in wa good restaurant ga many there-are-inanimate (wa and ga are both particles that follow the pronoun; a-ri-mas is used for inanimated objects or things). Notice how the order of things are completely reversed, so precisely that it almost resemble yoda in star wars. Wait a minute- yoda is japanese! So o-bi-wan and qui-gon-jin are koreans, and jajabings is- just retarded. Anyways, back to japanese. My other problem is that i hate meaningless learning, i would much prefer to learn like listening to a story. Luckily i happened to like studying on japanese history, so i would like to approach the language historically. If anyone of you out there who happens to be or know anyone who is fluent in both japanese and japanese history, please let me know, you have my greatest thanks and praise.

    A-ri-ga-do, ja-ne. 

     

     

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  • yuntuo
    posted on Thursday, Jul 3, 2008 7:54PM [Report]
    司翰哥哥,在广大翰迷的支持下,我们的后援会终于是建立了,欢迎你的到来,地址是http://victorchen.5d6d.com/
  • yuntuo
    posted on Tuesday, Jul 1, 2008 3:28PM [Report]
    司翰,今天是香港回归十一周年的大日子,衷心祝愿你能够开开心心~~
  • mariejost
    Official artist
    posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 1:02AM [Report]
    Hum, Etchy, I wonder how my husband would react if I proposed a Cantonese speaking-boyfriend (especially one who looks like a movie star) to help me with my language study?  All, of course, in the name of learning. ;-)
  • Etchy
    posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 12:57AM [Report]
    basic japanese is not SOOO hard, especially if you have a some background in Chinese.... (especially the writing).  

    sticking with a class religiously helps a lot, and getting a japanese gf helps even more. ;-)
  • jasmineT
    posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 12:51AM [Report]
    sumo trivia:Under Dohyo (the sumo ring) chestnuts, kombu(kelp),rice,dried cuttlefishs, and salt are buried as a gift offering to God for good luck.
  • jasmineT
    posted on Monday, Jun 30, 2008 12:36AM [Report]
    あ、源頼朝(minamoto no yoritomo)だ! have you been to Kamakura?
  • rottendoubt
    posted on Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 5:22PM [Report]
    i'm in japan right now!  i wish i could speak too...
  • jennytay
    posted on Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 1:53PM [Report]
    i guess i have no patience to learn
    i learnt the basic and gave up going to the intermediate
    am working in a jap firm now and there is jap classes going on, hopefully will get a chance to continue it la ;p
    had fun watching jap colleagues engaging in conversation n managed to figure out some words la .. heh!
  • musicnote
    posted on Sunday, Jun 29, 2008 12:46PM [Report]
    Japanese grammar is so difficult
  • iemma
    posted on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 10:00PM [Report]
    加油·
    至今还未去过日本。却很爱看NHK的大河剧,有助于侧面了解日本的历史,因大河剧的缘故,向往京都的寺庙和江户的大奥,特别是德川将军进入大奥的门廊和金铃。
    历史人物喜欢织田信长,德川家光,空海。
  • louise89
    posted on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 9:48PM [Report]
    加油!
  • mariejost
    Official artist
    posted on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 9:19PM [Report]
    Depending on what your native language is--i.e., Cantonese, Mandarin or English--you have options for learning Japanese.  If you are a native speaker of English, I have two words for you--Rosetta Stone and Pimsleur.  Both are excellent audio courses for getting the foundations of a language and are widely available.  Even if you are a native speaker of Cantonese or Mandarin, there should be similar self-study methods.  The best way to get started, if you have the time and money, is, of course, an immersion course in Japan.  Also check and see if where you are living there is a Japanese cultural center, Japanese language center, or something like that.  These entities typically offer language courses by native speakers that are much cheaper than with a private tutor.
  • bleupluie
    posted on Saturday, Jun 28, 2008 7:06PM [Report]
    hi Victor, probably you should start with learning to identify the 50+ characters (and its proper pronunciation) for both Hiragana & Katakana...my dad's Japanese but i have long abandoned the idea of further learning Japanese due to the fact that its grammar is mind twisting, bcuz my first languages do not include that since i was born and raised in Malaysia...
    i hope you know how to read Chinese characters since it's a big plus for understanding written Japanese along the way, the pronunciation is well, another topic...
    i do agree that learning languages and its culture & history is a good method to master the language, but exposure is another important element...practice and determination will ensure you excel in learning any languages...just my 2 cents =)
    hope all goes well...

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