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  • Live by the Electoral College, Die by the Electoral College...

    Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 12:51AM / Standard Entry / Members only
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    Of course I have been complaining about what a horrible choice Sarah Palin is for poor John McCain...   

    but before you get to worried about Palin being one heartbeat away from starting the End of Days,  let's remind ourselves how a president is actually elected in the US.    Candidates get a certain number of votes (270) from the 'electoral college', a body of state representatives that chooses who they vote for based on which candidate wins the popular vote in their individual state.  If you win by one vote in a state, you get 100% of the state's electoral votes. 

    There are a total of 538,  you need 270 votes to win the presidency.  As we recall from 2000 and 2004,  the breakdown of states won by either the republican or democrats was very very close,  basically it came down to just one state each time (Florida in '00 and Ohio in '04).

    This year many of the national polls have shown that McCain has been close to Obama, and even has led at a few points of time (Before the economy meltdown at least)....


    So I was curious to see what the current projections and polls show for the electoral college.  There's a good website called -  http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    Check out their projection, based on current state by state polls:


    Obama 349   McCain 174   Ties 15


    a key point to note is that Obama is currently leading or very close to it in 8 states that Bush had carried in '04:
    CO FL IA MO NV NM OH VA

    so even if he gets only one or two of those, he'll still win.  Another way of looking at it is based on the likelyhood of either side winning the state based on how big the current lead is in each state:

    strong Dem Strong Dem (207)
    weak Dem Weak Dem (97)
    barely Dem Barely Dem (45)
    tied Exactly tied (15)
    barely GOP Barely GOP (11)
    weak GOP Weak GOP (63)
    strong GOP Strong GOP (100)

    So as of right now, even if Obama only wins the 'Strong Dem' states and about 3/4 of the 'Weak Dem' states, without winning any of the 'barely' ones, he's in. 

    Of course anything can happen at the debate tonight,  but I'd like to think that the Palin's nonsensical attacks and McCains desperatate stunts won't be enough to over turn this thing...  let's keep our fingers crossed.

    ps, if you want more reason to know why Palin is unfit to be president,  watch this:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27057346#27057346


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  • narom
    posted on Thursday, Oct 9, 2008 2:29PM [Report]
    argh!  i'm moving to a red state!  
  • butter
    posted on Thursday, Oct 9, 2008 4:48AM [Report]
    They were saying after the debate last night that if Obama can take Ohio with their 20 electoral votes, he's got a good chance to win.  Let's hope he can take Ohio.
  • AsianChick100
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 10:08PM [Report]
    did you watch the 2 pres debates? and the VP debate? i haven't been so interested in US politics before! hehehe...
  • JoanneSanderson
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 7:28PM [Report]
    This is interesting to learn more, as I'm not totally sure how the system works in America. I'm a bit biased, I don't know everything about Palin, but I don't like her for ethical reasons, I'm not a staunch Obama supporter either, but I really hope he wins this election and does well for America and indeed the world!
  • bobbyty
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 3:33PM [Report]
    Umbrella of Job Creation!
  • peachey
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 3:17AM [Report]
    omg. Damn good video.
  • jasontobin
    Official artist
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 2:05AM [Report]
    It's interesting to look at the polls.  But I wonder how accurate they'll be in this election.  I think a lot of people who don't want to see a black man in office will come out of the woodwork to vote.  I don't think polls take that into consideration.

    As for the Olbermann video, I didn't need to see anything more to know Palin was unfit to be president but... damn I enjoyed his rant!
  • Flagday
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 1:57AM [Report]
    I hadn't read that.  That's good news.  With a Democratic Congress, but with very little money (tax revenues will undoubtedly go down), Obama will have to make some tough choices as to what's on the agenda.  He will actually have to lead.  

    Hey, not everyone loved Roosevelt but he inherited a total mess from Hoover.  But FDR did not, at the same time, have a war on his hands.  

    I just know that no matter how hard it's going to be in the next 4 years, we can't afford 4 more years of the same, or worse yet, stalemate.
  • Etchy
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 1:32AM
    actually the more interesting part is the fact that the senate may go 60+ for the democrats...   supposedly its best if they're from different parties... but that would impede w/ the 'change agenda', so let's give obama a term or so w/ a same party house and senate and see what he can do w/ it.
  • Flagday
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 1:28AM [Report]
    This is why it's important to get out the vote.  The Republicans always get out the vote.  The Dems just assume it's all gonna work out.  So even in the states that are blue, get out.  In the states where it's up in the air, get out to vote, and check for people who may not otherwise get to the polls.  I'm in PA but I will try to do the same.  

    This is an important election, so important that life itself is in the balance.  I'm not even exaggerating there.  

    I want Obama to win, and then hope that he can do what has to be done.  Republicans and deregulation have had their time in the sun.  Time for that to end.
  • xibanyae
    posted on Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 1:21AM [Report]
    i was checking this
    http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard

    seems a bit less republican states, still so sad to see 41% projected to vote for mccsame

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