"Since everything is but an apparition,
perfect in being what it is,
having nothing to do with good or bad,
acceptance or rejection,
one may well burst out in laughter."
-Long Chen Pa
So
first things first, I’ll address the inquiries of the last blog.
Joe Fiorello – William
Shatner Star Trek fight was a classic. Haha.
Flagday – Well like I said, I
cannot put a real martial artist on here and put him on blast. I don’t want to
make enemies… just yet. haha j/k. cuz to be honest, I can criticize even the best
of them just as an acting teacher can criticize an Oscar achieving performance
but wouldn’t that send out the wrong signals? I will steer away from negativity
because though some film-fighting is not good, I do still enjoy it.
MissScarlett – Good point.
It was a little bit insulting when we can clearly see that Collin Chou would
destroy Keanu in a heartbeat haha but I still enjoyed seeing Collin and Yuen Wu
Ping invade the western scene.
JRS - “Close-ups in film fighting
cover up a variety of flaws” That’s actually a great observation. Not many
viewers know this. American action does this a lot, take for example Batman
Begins however in that particular example, it fits the style. I agree that
martial arts flips cannot compare to gymnastic flips.
“Teach
us, baby!”
…and
show all my secrets?! Hahaha. NO
WAY!
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Okay
so back to the component EXPRESSION.
EVEN
REAL MARTIAL ARTISTS FAIL AT THIS STEP:
Real
martial artist know how to throw a REAL punch, have good core strength and
accuracy depending on their level. Someone like the MMA fighter Rampage Jackson
might kill 3 stuntmen per day, destroy 2 expensive cameras, and break the DP’s
nose in the process… and then still the footage is still unusable particularly
because camera tension is very prevalent amongst non-experienced film-fighters.
Film-fighting
is TEAMWORK. Real fighting is not. In film-fighting, the stuntmen and the
“hero” must have trust, coordination, and chemistry; traits very similar to a BASKETBALL
team. (not talking about the old-school high shorts )
A
skilled fighter can throw a spin-kick very easily. But can he throw the same
exact spin-kick 25 times at 3AM after 8 hours of shooting action with the same exact precision and intent and power and
speed and emotion while knowing where the camera is so he can open up to it and
sell the presence with focus eyes and perfect positioning according to the
directors preference, (not to mention, stop on a DIME if stuntmen stumble too
close)? ::catches air in a hurry::
Most viewers are unaware that in film, there are many takes and film
scenes can be brutal. More often than not, you must throw A COMBINATION of
attacks, not just one and in between each attack you also must sell the
“in-between” without looking like you are waiting (but that’s a different
component).
Just
like in the court of law (ooh I made a connection), INTENT is a very important part of expression. When
you throw a film punch, you must sell the intent to hit him while maintaining
control.This small detail entails
knowing what it is to want to beat a man’s face in. ... and so I'm not sexist, beat a woman's face in also.
Film
fighters must know what it is to be in a REAL FIGHT and the emotion that comes
along with it. Why? Because this IS THE EMOTION YOU MUST SELL. (Now when I say
fighting, I’m not talking about gloves and a ring. I’m talking about NO HOLDS
BARRED on the streets and the emotions that come with that.) For example, small
details like where your eyes are looking when you are film-fighting.
Inexperienced film-fighters focus their eyes on their opponent’s next attack before
the opponent even attacks. In doing so reveals the sequence of CHOREOGRAPHY. That
is bad because it takes away the element of fighting called UNPREDICABILITY or surprise element (separate component discussed later).The eyes should look at the center of the person’s chest so that one can
use the peripheral vision to see attacks from all angles. Is this confusing? haha
Aight
I didn’t know I was going to be circulating AnD. If I did, I would have put on
a shirt and combed my hair for this. … well actually, just the “combed my hair”
part.
At
Flagday’s and JRS’ request.
Next
time I’ll go over "gags and stunts" which is essential for excitement. Maybe I’ll
show some clips from my film… hehehe lessee how high my ego is hoovering at
that time LOL.
Wow, detailed. Some good points on how emotion must go into fight scenes to make them believable. I've found that once the movements are practiced a hundred times it becomes easier to bring the expressions out. Jackie Chan used to literally spend months on his fight scenes (and he didn't use any wires).
Seriously you should consider doing more of these it's helpful for not only those learning but also for those of us who are interested to know more about film-fighting.Hmm I could of done with some of your help when I was in Wrestling.
So what your saying is that I could not be a good film fighter in spite of my prior years of street fighting cred. Fair enough. I don't have the knees for it anyway. That's why I pack heat. No, no, not a gun. Heat packs, for aches and pains.
I didn't get a word what you said coz your nekkii body was distracting me *blush*
J/k that was very interesting indeed, you could have wore some yellow tights thou, you know to get the 'real' Bruce lee kind of feeling ^_^
@ Missy S: The end fight scene between Jet Li and Jet Li (stunt double with CGI work) actually took 2 wks to film per the special features on the dvd. However, Cory Yuen and his team worked on the actual fight scene for much longer before Jet was involved.
I mentioned on my YouTube comment about "The One." The end fight scene has a LOT of expression....especially when the bad guy thinks he's won and is waiting for the surge of power that never happens....hooot!
I can't believe you have a sentence that has over 60 words! hahahahhaaaa!
Oh, yes...we will pressure you into releasing all of your secrets...like leaches we are! (Gross...haha!)
Never comb your hair and never put on a shirt. If you had a shirt on we wouldn't be able to tell if your core was solid. Yeah, that's the ticket! No...actually, being shirtless conveys the intention behind the moves you're demonstrating. In taichi they teach us about intent so this is nothing new to me although it probably is to others.
Thanks for covering this in detail. And, no, I didn't think the vid was too long...it's like listening to a real teacher just kind of ramble on in front of the classroom. =)
Good job lok bong thom. I never really knew how to put all these thoughts into words hahha. In any case, I hope everybody will soon understand what it means to be really expressive as a film fighter (and not just making angry faces for no purpose).
amen to kicking the knee, very important in self defence (which is a little different to martial arts) - why risk injuring oneself (speaking for us lesser mortals) with a kick to the head when a good swift strong kick to the knee will disable an assailant.
Your ego does housework, my house needs hoovering, can I borrow it
haha =p
Bruce Lee said, in a demo interview "thing," he would go for the knee becuz it was the part of a person that came within range first.
When you talked about combinations of attacks, in-betweens, selling it, etc. my mind when to that scene with Jet Li toward the end of "The One." Didn't I read somewhere that scene took something like a month to shoot?
Looking forward to gags and stunts...
Don't worry about your ego, we know how to fix it for you if it gets to inflated =D
Kudos for doing up these blogs, D.Y.! Next time I'm choreographing fight scenes, I'll be simply refering to my cast/actors to your page to learn a thing or two... ;)
I like the point you make about Bruce Lee and how, in a real fight, he'd go for the kneecaps more often than the head. In a real fight, the point is to disable your opponent in the most efficient manner possible (minimizing the chances that he will hurt you). How boring would that be in a movie! In a movie, on a macro level the fight choreography is telling a story and on the micro level, how the fighters fight, the actual execution of these movements, reveals aspects of the characters and moves the story along in a very adrenaline-infused way. Fighting can be akin to dancing in this way. The body can always be expressive, even when it isn't "doing" anything.
Half of the Cambodian population was being murdered as D.Y. let out his first cry. As refugees, his family escaped the communist regime and fled to Thailand, the Philippines and, eventually, to America where he was raised in Long Beach, California.
Love for martial arts was recognized early in D.Y. At age seven, a visit to a karate school dazzled and amazed him, but martial art training was a luxury his family could not afford. To make up for it, his dad watched the karate class from afar and tried to draw the techniques for DY to learn. Time passed, and so too did D.Y.’s hopes of train in martial arts. He would have to settle for watching and imitating figures like Jet Li, Donnie Yen and Jackie Chan. Inspired to imitate and create movements in the martial spirit, little by little, he began opening up to life and abandoning the violent lifestyle he had taken on.
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My passion is not simply acting, martial arts and film. My dream of revamping the martial spirit through the media is an intervention. I want to use the media to reach the world and my message is one of unity.
My dad says America is his saving grace since it was America that saved us in our moment of desperation during the flee of the Cambodian Civil War. His three one time starving children are now college graduates and, in one way or another, aspire to give back to humanity. While some curse the American government, my father praises it. He says it’s not about a right or wrong perspective, it’s about what perspective brings the best out of you. What makes you get back up when life beats you to the ground, buries you under the heaviest rocks and tries to destroys every hope you have? And it is about discovery. Mine for that gold that exist in your soul, no matter what dark places you encounter along the way. Discover that one thing, the will of your life, that keeps your ship steaming, no matter how long it takes for the shores to arrive. On that shore stands the hope worth fighting for. Lastly, what perspective gives you the courage to pay it forward? With empathy, comes courage. In your weakness, you find your strength and in sacrificing yourself, you find yourself.
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