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  • FILM-FIGHTING 101 (Part 2 of unknown)

    Thursday, Oct 29, 2009 5:48PM / Standard Entry / Members only
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    Continued…

     

    So first things first, I’ll address the inquiries of the last blog.

    Joe Fiorello – William Shatner Star Trek fight was a classic. Haha.

     

    Flagday – Well like I said, I cannot put a real martial artist on here and put him on blast. I don’t want to make enemies… just yet. haha j/k. cuz to be honest, I can criticize even the best of them just as an acting teacher can criticize an Oscar achieving performance but wouldn’t that send out the wrong signals? I will steer away from negativity because though some film-fighting is not good, I do still enjoy it.

     

    MissScarlett – Good point. It was a little bit insulting when we can clearly see that Collin Chou would destroy Keanu in a heartbeat haha but I still enjoyed seeing Collin and Yuen Wu Ping invade the western scene.

     

    JRS - “Close-ups in film fighting cover up a variety of flaws” That’s actually a great observation.  Not many viewers know this. American action does this a lot, take for example Batman Begins however in that particular example, it fits the style. I agree that martial arts flips cannot compare to gymnastic flips.

    “Teach us, baby!”

    …and show all my secrets?! Hahaha. NO WAY!

     

    ……………………………………………………………..

    Okay so back to the component EXPRESSION.

    EVEN REAL MARTIAL ARTISTS FAIL AT THIS STEP:

    Real martial artist know how to throw a REAL punch, have good core strength and accuracy depending on their level. Someone like the MMA fighter Rampage Jackson might kill 3 stuntmen per day, destroy 2 expensive cameras, and break the DP’s nose in the process… and then still the footage is still unusable particularly because camera tension is very prevalent amongst non-experienced film-fighters.

     

    Film-fighting is TEAMWORK. Real fighting is not. In film-fighting, the stuntmen and the “hero” must have trust, coordination, and chemistry; traits very similar to a BASKETBALL team. (not talking about the old-school high shorts )

     

    A skilled fighter can throw a spin-kick very easily. But can he throw the same exact spin-kick 25 times at 3AM after 8 hours of shooting action with the same exact precision and intent and power and speed and emotion while knowing where the camera is so he can open up to it and sell the presence with focus eyes and perfect positioning according to the directors preference, (not to mention, stop on a DIME if stuntmen stumble too close)? ::catches air in a hurry::

    Most viewers are unaware that in film, there are many takes and film scenes can be brutal. More often than not, you must throw A COMBINATION of attacks, not just one and in between each attack you also must sell the “in-between” without looking like you are waiting (but that’s a different component).  

     

    Just like in the court of law (ooh I made a connection), INTENT is a very important part of expression. When you throw a film punch, you must sell the intent to hit him while maintaining control.  This small detail entails knowing what it is to want to beat a man’s face in. ... and so I'm not sexist, beat a woman's face in also.

     

    Film fighters must know what it is to be in a REAL FIGHT and the emotion that comes along with it. Why? Because this IS THE EMOTION YOU MUST SELL. (Now when I say fighting, I’m not talking about gloves and a ring. I’m talking about NO HOLDS BARRED on the streets and the emotions that come with that.) For example, small details like where your eyes are looking when you are film-fighting. Inexperienced film-fighters focus their eyes on their opponent’s next attack before the opponent even attacks. In doing so reveals the sequence of CHOREOGRAPHY. That is bad because it takes away the element of fighting called UNPREDICABILITY or surprise element (separate component discussed later).  The eyes should look at the center of the person’s chest so that one can use the peripheral vision to see attacks from all angles. Is this confusing? haha

     

    Aight I didn’t know I was going to be circulating AnD. If I did, I would have put on a shirt and combed my hair for this. … well actually, just the “combed my hair” part.

    At Flagday’s and JRS’ request.




    Next time I’ll go over "gags and stunts" which is essential for excitement. Maybe I’ll show some clips from my film… hehehe lessee how high my ego is hoovering at that time LOL.

Entry comments (23)

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  • moonchild72
     
    posted on Wednesday, Nov 4, 2009 12:14PM [Report]
    "Specimen A" ~ nice title for the video, considering I have my TV on the new "V" series on ABC :P

    DY on toast? J/K

    :P
  • willc627
    posted on Monday, Nov 2, 2009 4:25AM [Report]
    haha you shoulda demonstrated it smiling, like wu jing in spl, lol!
  • siu lum fighter
    posted on Sunday, Nov 1, 2009 5:17PM [Report]
    Wow, detailed.  Some good points on how emotion must go into fight scenes to make them believable.  I've found that once the movements are practiced a hundred times it becomes easier to bring the expressions out. Jackie Chan used to literally spend months on his fight scenes (and he didn't use any wires).
  • chrischung
    Official artist 
    posted on Sunday, Nov 1, 2009 5:00AM [Report]
    awesomee! :)
  • JoanneSanderson
    posted on Saturday, Oct 31, 2009 7:25PM [Report]
    Seriously you should consider doing more of these it's helpful for not only those learning but also for those of us who are interested to know more about film-fighting.Hmm I could of done with some of your help when I was in Wrestling.
  • junichikajioka
    Official artist 
    posted on Saturday, Oct 31, 2009 5:46PM [Report]
    very cool! :-)
  • chrislay
    Official artist 
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 2:10PM [Report]
    So what your saying is that I could not be a good film fighter in spite of my prior years of street fighting cred. Fair enough. I don't have the knees for it anyway. That's why I pack heat. No, no, not a gun. Heat packs, for aches and pains.
  • MissScarlett
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 11:27AM [Report]
    lol @ Malay! "(and not just making angry faces for no purpose)." hahahaha!
  • Belkie
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 9:23AM [Report]
    Coolz video and blog :)
  • vanness08
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 6:31AM [Report]
    I didn't get a word what you said coz your nekkii body was distracting me *blush*
    J/k that was very interesting indeed, you could have wore some yellow tights thou, you know to get the 'real' Bruce lee kind of feeling ^_^
  • JRS
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 5:43AM [Report]
    @ Missy S:  The end fight scene between Jet Li and Jet Li (stunt double with CGI work) actually took 2 wks to film per the special features on the dvd.  However, Cory Yuen and his team worked on the actual fight scene for much longer before Jet was involved.  

    I mentioned on my YouTube comment about "The One."  The end fight scene has a LOT of expression....especially when the bad guy thinks he's won and is waiting for the surge of power that never happens....hooot!
  • JRS
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 5:41AM [Report]
    I can't believe you have a sentence that has over 60 words!  hahahahhaaaa!  

    Oh, yes...we will pressure you into releasing all of your secrets...like leaches we are!  (Gross...haha!)

    Never comb your hair and never put on a shirt.  If you had a shirt on we wouldn't be able to tell if your core was solid.  Yeah, that's the ticket!  No...actually, being shirtless conveys the intention behind the moves you're demonstrating.  In taichi they teach us about intent so this is nothing new to me although it probably is to others.

    Thanks for covering this in detail.  And, no, I didn't think the vid was too long...it's like listening to a real teacher just kind of ramble on in front of the classroom.  =)
  • Malaysofly
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 5:13AM [Report]
    Good job lok bong thom.  I never really knew how to put all these thoughts into words hahha.  In any case, I hope everybody will soon understand what it means to be really expressive as a film fighter (and not just making angry faces for no purpose).  

    Let's see what you got for stunts haha.
  • justicevancho
    Official artist 
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 4:17AM [Report]
    Nice nice.  But then I already knew all this haha jk.
  • Jaine
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 3:29AM [Report]
    amen to kicking the knee, very important in self defence (which is a little different to martial arts) - why risk injuring oneself (speaking for us lesser mortals) with a kick to the head when a good swift strong kick to the knee will disable an assailant.

    Your ego does housework, my house needs hoovering, can I borrow it
    haha =p
  • MissScarlett
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 2:51AM [Report]
    Bruce Lee said, in a demo interview "thing," he would go for the knee becuz it was the part of a person that came within range first.

    When you talked about combinations of attacks, in-betweens, selling it, etc. my mind when to that scene with Jet Li toward the end of "The One." Didn't I read somewhere that scene took something like a month to shoot?

    Looking forward to gags and stunts...
    Don't worry about your ego, we know how to fix it for you if it gets to inflated =D
  • alanwai
    Official artist 
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 2:45AM [Report]
    Kudos for doing up these blogs, D.Y.! Next time I'm choreographing fight scenes, I'll be simply refering to my cast/actors to your page to learn a thing or two... ;)
  • elle75
     
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 1:33AM [Report]
    NICE!!!
  • Seeker-09
    posted on Friday, Oct 30, 2009 12:50AM [Report]
    Thx sooo much for writing these blogs, I'm lovin them.

    Lol@ the thought of you sprucing up for a wider audience on AnD. Yeah, comb that hair haha.
  • mariejost
    Official artist 
    posted on Thursday, Oct 29, 2009 7:01PM [Report]
    I like the point you make about Bruce Lee and how, in a real fight, he'd go for the kneecaps more often than the head.  In a real fight, the point is to disable your opponent in the most efficient manner possible (minimizing the chances that he will hurt you).  How boring would that be in a movie!  In a movie, on a macro level the fight choreography is telling a story and on the micro level, how the fighters fight, the actual execution of these movements, reveals aspects of the characters and moves the story along in a very adrenaline-infused way.  Fighting can be akin to dancing in this way.  The body can always be expressive, even when it isn't "doing" anything.
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