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55Gordon 
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Posted at 2008-10-20 09:38 AM  Send PM 
Heroes of Shaolin - movie??

Good to know that Dragonshen is also onto the news of this upcoming project.  Has the movie been completed yet?? As mentioned before, we don't get many movies from Hongkong in mandarin or cantonese dialogue here in Australia.  Exceptions were Fearless, Curse of the Golden Flower, House of Flying Daggers and Crouching Tiger & Hidden Dragon.  These movies have very good turnout at the theatres  here(popular with both Asian and Australian).  If western audiences are really intrigued with our arts, they'll still watch the movie because they know it's English sub-titled for their benefit and enjoyment.  We've come a long way since dubbing and I'm certain many fans out there agree with me.

Although also a fan of Jackie, his western collaboration, the latest being Forbidden Kingdom, is a disappointment to me (I've given my feedback on his website). In order to really showcase our chinese martial arts or story for that matter, it has to be in our cantonese/mandarin dialogue. So I hope this upcoming movie will sustain the high level of  quality of  his showmanship of martial arts which  I've come to expect  of Sifu Lau Kar Leung's movies.

By the way Gordon, do you remember the old movie you made entitled Young Beggar Su (Siu Lin So Hak Yi) which you costarred with Wang Yu (love the football scenes, so original and hilarious).  Please give us Part 2 to that story as you can portray  a more matured Beggar Su. That movie left  us wondering what happened to the unselfish  So Chan (who sent  his step-brother on a date with his girlfriend Ting Ting) and who later  lost his family, his girlfriend and step-brother.  I  know you're physically  capable of showcasing  your  skills even now . Let us see the matured Master at work.  Previous old movies of Beggar Su were portrayed by  Yuen Siu Tin  depicting the character in a more comedic role (don't find them any special).   Get together with Sifu Lau Kar Leung and make a Part 2 to your original story, please!!!   Go, go, go!! Jasmine
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I also agree that martial arts movies should be in the native tongue. Although Im neither Chinese or Japanese , I find that I dislike the movie when it is dubbed in English. Somehow to me it takes away from
authenticity of the story. My friends and family call me crazy for watching the movie in it's native language with sub titles, but I like it so much better. It makes it more real to me.

I recently watched the movie "Mongol" and I was blown away by it. I was so impressed with the realness of the relationship of the people in the tribes and the loyalties to each other that I cried a little when the
two friends in the movie had to eventually fight each other. It was very moving for me. I think that's what I
like most about the characters that Gordon Liu would play in his movies. His character was always a loyal person and a person of deep thought even when he played in comedies. His eyes were always very expressive to me and showed lots of emotion. He's still my favorite even now.
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Posted at 2008-10-23 07:57 AM  Send PM 
Heroes of Shaolin

Thank you blsee11.  It reveals that you, too, enjoys the fine art.   Can you imagine watching Gerard Depardieu  speak ing  mandarin in Les Miserables??  

If you really want to enjoy Gordon's previous achievements, have you watched Heroes of the East   (aka Ninja something or other in the USA) whereby he was challenged by 5 Japanese martial arts master  , 8th Diagram Pole (one of  the best display of pole technics), Challenge of the Masters (Gordon's first movie with Sifu Lau Kar Leung).  He also appeared in a couple of independent films (low budget) directed by his brother Lau Kar Wing (younger brother of Lau Kar Leung) entitled Fists and Guts, Shaolin Drunken Monk and Warrior from Shaolin (a young Eric Tsang also co-starred).  Very difficult to get the original cantonese version as I only managed the vcd versions (better than nothing).  Simple plots but still enjoyable, mind you the english-dubbed versions are hair-raising.

If you enjoy martial arts, go get the documentary on different forms of shaolin martial arts hosted by yours truly, Gordon Liu.  It was produced in 2003, I think, but I only managed to get the english-dubbed version  on ebay  by sheer chance.   Still hunting for the cantonese/mandarin  version.

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I did actually watch Shaolin Drunken Monk, and Warrior from Shaolin.
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Posted at 2008-10-26 07:13 PM  Send PM 
Heroes of shaolin

I think I've heard of tht moive... have anybody seen 36th chamber
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Oh Yes!, the 36 chambers is my absolute favorite of Gordon Liu's. I even went out looking for the movie and when I found it I played it over and over and over again. I took it to work and had some of my co-workers watch some of it during our lunch hour and they became Gordon fans too, hahahahahaha. Can you imagine? All these women becoming little Gordon Liu warriors but don't know a lick of Kung Fu, hahahahaha.
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Posted at 2008-10-28 07:06 AM  Send PM 
Heroes of Shaolin

Well, lucky you. Who can watch dvd in the middle of the day during work!  I think  these ladies turned 'fans' merely because of his cute antics in the movie.  That was Gordon's 2nd movie only and he was a mere lad in his very early 20s.  His first movie was Challenge of the Master collaborating with Director Sifu Lau Kar Leung (who portrayed the baddie in this movie).  Very good fighting sequences for both of them.

It's a tie for me.  8 Diagram Pole Fighter  (the last movie Sifu Lau did for Shaw Brothers) also shares the same spot because you can see the maturity (hot bod) and even finer execution of the pole by Gordon. The 2 best sequences of pole fight in any existing movie  (unbeatable in execution by Gordon and action choreography/direction by Sifu Lau) There's a bit of history in this movie because the Yang family really did exist.  Quite a few movies were made regarding their chilvary/honour/loyalty to the then Emperor of that time.  Go get Heroes of the East and you'll see Gordon exhibiting his prowess in the chinese sword, spear, butterfly swords and  3-sectioned staff  (my favourite)..

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Posted at 2008-10-28 07:30 AM  Send PM 
This is for Krilln

If you own many of Gordon's movies, how come you haven't even seen the 36th Chamber of Shaolin??  Are you kidding me?  Go watch it and then re-watch all his other movies.  Be sure the dialogue is either in cantonese or mandarin.
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Posted at 2008-10-28 09:48 PM  Send PM 
I'm not sure but I think I that I've seen heroes of the East. The problem with some of these movies is they have different names in the states. So sometimes when I go to the stores I'll see a movie of Gordon's that I rented but it was called something else. Is Heroes of the East the movie were he marries a woman from Japan and she is martial artist also and they battle each other throughout the movie, but they truly love each other in the movie?

There's also one where Gordon and a friend have to avenge the death of their teacher. I liked that one also. I'm so bad with the names of these movies. Then there's one where Gordon learns and masters his Kung Fu while building a scaffold. I thought that was pretty cool because he fights the enemy while tying together bamboo that continus to build the scaffold he's working on.

I've seen others of his in his later years which were good also, but one of his movies that he did with some kids I didn't like so much because it was kind of silly and it wasn't shot very good.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by blsee11 at 2008-10-21 08:42 PM
I also agree that martial arts movies should be in the native tongue. Although Im neither Chinese or Japanese , I find that I dislike the movie when it is dubbed in English. Somehow to me it takes away from
authenticity of the story. My friends and family call me crazy for watching the movie in it's native language with sub titles, but I like it so much better. It makes it more real to me.

I recently watched the movie "Mongol" and I was blown away by it. I was so impressed with the realness of the relationship of the people in the tribes and the loyalties to each other that I cried a little when the
two friends in the movie had to eventually fight each other. It was very moving for me. I think that's what I
like most about the characters that Gordon Liu would play in his movies. His character was always a loyal person and a person of deep thought even when he played in comedies. His eyes were always very expressive to me and showed lots of emotion. He's still my favorit ...

I agree,I must watch them in their native tongue as well plus if its in Cantonese i can brush up on it.
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Posted at 2008-11-4 07:35 AM  Send PM 
It seems so far that all of you guys got the gist of appreciating a good movie in their native language.  I love watching Italian and French movies (with English subtitles of course).

If you guys want to see Gordon out of his 'monk' attire, you have to watch Tiger on the Beat 1 and 2.  For Tiger 1, he portrays a drug dealer's (Norman Tsui) right-hand man.  Still so fit and love his hair, pay attention to the finale.  For Tiger 2, he played the drug dealer, complete with gold chains, girls and boat.   Because these 2 movies were made to 'promote' Chow Yun Fatt (Tiger 1) and another newcomer to Shaw (the beefcake chap who appeared in Tiger 1 and 2),  Gordon only took on supportive roles and I hate to see him being beaten up cause we know what skills he's capable of.   Anyway, it's only a movie and the beefcake chap didn't get very far in his acting career because (you guessed it........), he actually has more brawn than brains. and too smug for his own good.

For MIKxing4767 - It's lovely to know  you enjoy a foreign language.   Watching foreign movies is another way to pick them up.  If you want a good laugh, watch Jet Li's Last Hero of China (last movie he made in his Wong Fei Hong character but not under Tsui Hark's direction).  Gordon also played a cameo role in this movie but as a baddie.  They needed him for those fight sequences with Jet.  

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how funny. I would like to see that. I'll check Netflix and see what they have. I hope they have it.
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Oh, I forgot to mention there's this other chap who also played the baddie.  He has an irritating laughter and you can't miss him.  If this movie appears under a different name,  check out Jet Li dressed like a giant chicken with metal chicken claws on the cover-sleeve.  (sounds out of this world doesn't it??, haha)

Enjoy
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by 55Gordon at 2008-10-23 10:57 AM
If you really want to enjoy Gordon's previous achievements, have you watched Heroes of the East   (aka Ninja something or other in the USA) whereby he was challenged by 5 Japanese martial arts master  ,

Shaolin Challenges Ninja was the other title. I believe the new American dvd is under Heroes of the East though.
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Just visited the old website where there was a write-up/press release back in 2006 regarding the movie Heroes of Shaolin.  Mentioned that Gordon will be playing the part of Pak Mei (white brows).  Although this role was previously dominated by Loh Lieh (now deceased) I don't want to see Gordon taking this bit because he's too nice  to play the baddie.  I'm sure he'll deliver the punches/splits but does it mean he has to die or shred to bits in the finale (which we know that's what happened to Pak Mei)?? BOo hoo!!!  If you guys remember, he played a young Wong Fei Hong in Challenge of the Master where he was trained by Lok Ah Choi (played by Chen Kuan Tai).  

I suppose it's inevitable that he has to play senior roles now.  Which brings  me back to the question of why doesn't  Sifu Lau Kar Leung make another movie (sort of sequel) to the Young Vagabond to tell the story of Soh Hak Yee of why he was the way he was.  Any comment??  I think Gordon is in a good position to do this, right age to portray a senior 'drunken master'  and we know how he loves to throw in a few comedic shots.  Comments anyone??

p/s: Gordon, if  you're reading this, please tell brother Lau Kar Leung all the fans are waiting.
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Posted at 2008-12-28 09:31 PM  Send PM 
Yes, Gordon, all the fans are waiting for HEROES OF SHAOLIN. Please please make this movie!!! And I guess Gordon Liu will play a perfect Pak Mei because Pak Mei is a master around Gordon Liu's age. And he can play baddies (see Kill Bill).




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