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  • NHS (National Health Service)

    Thursday, Jan 28, 2010 8:03PM / Standard Entry / Members only
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    After Flagday raised some important questions about a National Health Service, I thought I'd take her advice and do a blog. I realise that in America right now it is a major topic and yet it has been hard to find out what living with an NHS system is actually like. I'll do my best to answer the questions Flagday asked because I'm sure a lot of US Residents are wondering. If you have anymore please feel free to ask

    (This is a long blog so if NHS does not concern you, I advise against reading it and for those who are interested take it a bit by bit to read)

    What is the effect of your healthcare system on someone like yourself?

    I'm middle class and so the national health system is a godsend, without it the poorer and middle class society in Britain would not be able to afford a lot of the treatment. We still pay for Dentistry and Opticians but if you are on benefits or low income, these too are subsidised and partly payed for, as is Medical Prescriptions(otherwise Prescription medicine costs around £6.50 per prescription for non- benefit and those under the age of 60)  . For me who is Self-employed a dentist check-up costs £16. Besides these three everything else is free, this includes mental health departments.

    Taking a typical UK resident  (I will use the pronoun you)  Like what does one pay as a monthly premium?

    We pay for our NHS mostly through National Insurance Contributions(NI), which is 11% for those earning  above £110 -£840 per week. For earnings above £840 you will pay more, and for less than £110 you'll pay little if any. Self-Employed people like me pay £2.40 a week. Although NI is not just for NHS, it is a contribution that goes into NHS funds.

    You CAN  still have private healthcare if you wish, with people such as BUPA, but NHS is free to everyone no matter what your income.

     Do you have a choice of doctors? 

    You can have your choice of doctors as long as they are in your vicinity, like for me I could not have a doctor based in London as my home is out of the area(actually by about 250 miles away).

    We have  a GP, which is the doctor for general checkups and such, than there is the Consultant who you would be referred to if you have a specialist need and finally the Surgeon who helps you through the operation and aftermath, all these are generally from the area you live in but occasionally you can be sent to other zones depending on where your nearest specialist place is for things such as Heart surgery.

    Are there long waits for regular visits - for specialists - for emergencies?

    Regular visits to the GP are immediate as and when you need them the appointments are made, the system varies. My GP for example won't allow you to pre-book appointments for another day, but others do still allow this.

    Specialists are as a rule under the NHS only referred to you if the GP things it is required, again the length of time to visit a specialist can vary depending on where you live and what the case is. Some will take months, others you will be referred to within days.

    Emergency cases are dealt with as quickly as Private cases once the outcome is decided. And for A&E (ER) visits it depends on what you arrive there with. A cut thumb and you could be waiting there for 9 hours at the out-patients department, but a medical emergency such as a heart attack and you go straight to A&E.

    One important rule is that if you call an ambulance they MUST come out and if you want to go to hospital even if they feel there is nothing wrong, YOU MUST be taken to hospital whether they think it should or should not be so.

    Do people hate your system?

    We get frustrated at the system but do we hate it? No I don't think so, and I think it is proven by the lack of numbers who sign up to private healthcare. The NHS is the  second biggest employer in the world and it saves millions of lives that would not be saved otherwise, our health insurance never stops so treatment is constant no matter what our paypacket. A hospital is always close by and if not we will have an ambulance, even air ambulance to make sure you are taken as quickly as possible. That's not to say it's perfect, for instance an expectant mother has to go to Ormskirk instead of Southport here as we no longer have the facilities or Childrens A&E. Each hospital specialises in something, BUT you can go to the hospital with these cases and emergency ones rarely get transferred to another hospital.

    Can one get a job which provides better health insurance beyond what the state offers?

    We receive every treatment the same no matter the job. Private patients have advantage such as private rooms or quicker times for non emergency cases, but overall both Private and NHS patients get the same treatment as far as medical emergencies are concerned. Jobs can come with Private healthcare but it all depends on the employer.

    Do doctors have to pay a kings ransom for an education in the UK or does the state turn out subsidized doctors?

    Medical students are all given grants to attend university and accomodation and unlike other professions they don't have to pay back the loans.

    Overall I'm happy with the NHS, yes there is much that needs fixing, even as the second biggest employer they are still very much understaffed. Matrons who were gotten rid of years ago,need bringing back to the hospital wards to ensure high standards of cleaning and care are kept check of. And a better system is needed for drug supply, any new ones on the market, if too expensive can often take time to reach the general population.

    But I know that without the NHS my father would have died 20 years before he did, and as for me I'd more then likely be lying in a gutter with a wooden leg, they've done a pretty good job in keeping me healthy and I haven't paid a penny.(well except for the NI).

     

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  • JasonChau
    posted on Friday, Feb 12, 2010 1:20AM [Report]
    Lovely writeup Joanne!!! Very indepth and informative! I certainly never knew half the stuff you've written.....

    For sure, I thank the NHS with my life. Had it not been for the NHS a few years ago, I might not even be here today. Back in 2005 I had a major influenza breakout when I was still living in London. I had food poisoning one day, and my vision went blank. I started vomiting non-stop so I went to see my local GP. And she gave me some steroids to clear me up.

    Problem was, the steroids didn't help so my family had to call the ambulance. If it was a private affair it would have cost thousands of pounds. Luckily the area I lived in was quite close to the hospital, so I was lucky. I had an injection from one of the nurses, my sickness went down, and I was quickly discharged home.

    The only criticism I have is the current system employs a lot of help from the pharmaceutical industries and its not necessarily helpful because they often do trials and use people as guinea pigs. I have both family and friends who work in the NHS, but I have issues with the GPs and some of the companies that work in pharmaceuticals, mainly with their ethics. To give an example, right after I had the steroid from the GP, I developed a major side-effect of the steroid, which was it somehow messed up my nervous system. During the time I was down at home (after taking the steroids) my spine began to automatically arch backwards and I couldn't do anything to control it! For the first time in my life, I experienced almost Multiple Sclerosis-like symptoms. This was the major issue for us calling the ambulance. It was so painful for me, my father had to literally restrain me physically until the ambulance arrived with a stretcher. It wasn't until I arrived at the hospital, and the nurse gave me an antidote for my responses, that my arching subsided......and I found out the truth about the danger of modern medicines. While they may be helpful, they also have too many side-effects.

    Going back to having better healthcare, for sure we need a healthcare system in the world like the NHS for all nations, but one I feel that doesn't cost as much, if not at all ie. free. It may even involve a whole revamp of our current world economic system.
  • HuisyG
    posted on Thursday, Feb 11, 2010 3:24PM [Report]
    I think we have BUPA in Australia too, or maybe I've seen the name related to the health sector.

    In Australia, we have medicare support which is similar to the NHS. I still have private health insurance, partly for the peace of mind!
  • hutch
    posted on Wednesday, Feb 3, 2010 9:10PM [Report]
    Interestingly enough it sounds very similar to our Medicare system that even 12 years of conservative did not succeed in wrecking.

    Has a bottom line that works for everyone and the affluent can pay more for private hospitals if they like.

    I have only ever been in hospital from accidents, (bike prangs etc ....) but I would rather end up in a public ward full of people that locked ina fancy box with no-one to talk to. If I am going to be bored at least you have someone to share it with.
  • mellydurham
    Official artist 
    posted on Tuesday, Feb 2, 2010 9:34AM [Report]
    National health care... such pros and cons.  US is trying to do something like it, but I don't think the way our nation is set up, that it can be done right.
  • gordonchiu
    Official artist 
    posted on Monday, Feb 1, 2010 10:16AM [Report]
    Beautifully described and written! Thank you for sharing. I have told others to come visit your page for more information and understanding on this area. It has certainly become a topic of major discussion.
  • Jaine
    posted on Saturday, Jan 30, 2010 4:54PM [Report]
    we used to have a good national health system here but the National govt stuffed it in the80s and neither National or Labour have done a thing to fix it since
    boo
  • jacishere
    posted on Saturday, Jan 30, 2010 6:33AM [Report]
    I don't think there is a perfect health care system but it's good to know that the NHS is able to help people of all classes.  It's like that here in Canada too, everyone in every class is provided for quite well under the health care system but as you have mentioned for the NHS, it's also not perfect but keeps most of us happy.
  • peachey
    posted on Friday, Jan 29, 2010 11:38AM [Report]
    their loans are forgiven. that is way cool. I think part of the hardship for some to attend med school is the cost. your NHS sounds pretty advantageous to live under. A nhs for this country seems like it'll be a continuing battle. Nobody wants to budge or change bc too many corps are invested in the way things are now and they seem to have everyone's balls under their control.
  • moonchild72
    posted on Friday, Jan 29, 2010 5:28AM [Report]
    My cousin in Scotland has NHS ~ she LOVES it!!! :)
  • Flagday
    posted on Friday, Jan 29, 2010 2:13AM [Report]
    Thank you so much N.  We are told so many horror stories about the UK EU and Canadian systems....as if we don`t have horror stories of our own!   So a person making any kind of salary will automatically have a percentage deducted from their salary for National Insurance?  Since it is a sliding scale I wonder if it is the equivalent of our insurance system premium payments?  

    Anyway thanks for the information.  I think that doctors who graduate from school without crushing debt hanging over them are more likely to focus on their patients than their patient turnover rate.

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